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This is a discussion on The BEST video about Chrome OS within the Chrome OS News section, part of the Google Chrome OS category: Originally Posted by Luc VN @Michael: Why don't you just ignore these posts if they are spam to you? That ...


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    Michael3185 is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc VN View Post
    @Michael:
    Why don't you just ignore these posts if they are spam to you?
    That is what I do with "themes" for Chrome, I am not interested so I do not post anymore...
    You write posts longer than anyone, just to tell you feel spammed... Why?
    Live and let live, no? somehow I feel I will have a veeeery looong response again
    Well, apologies for the long posts, but usually I find myself having to explain something which was queried, and on top of that I can type almost as fast as most people can talk. Some of my longest posts (and they got very long in the anti-adverts thread) took me only a minute or two to write, except where I had to look something up.

    It's not the posts which are 'spammy', but the advertising companies and corporations throw at us all the time as though they have every right to. People's forum posts are interesting, and personally I don't feel that disagreeing is argument, but interesting discussion. I'm used to being around very vocal and forceful people, but please don't get the impression that my posts are an attempt to browbeat you or anyone else into submission. I'm just saying how I see things. And sometimes I can get a a bit arsey, but I've apologised for that when it's happened (and gone and got something to eat to sort out the blood sugar!)

    One or two people have said in the forums that they don't care about advertising. I have a neighbour who uses Chrome, and who even said he likes the adverts! He doesn't click on them, but I guess he thinks they liven up the pages he looks at. It takes all kinds to make a world, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael3185 View Post
    Perhaps I could have been a bit clearer about that. Chrome doesn't throw adverts in your face all the time, Google (and other companies) certainly do. The only way to stop it is to use Firefox and Adblock Plus, as the Gecko engine has 'content policy', or use a proxy application with Chrome or IE, etc. (There's a thread here about that).

    Google's life-blood is advertising. It didn't used to be, but it sure is now. Advertising is - to me and many others - intrusive, and certainly a waste of web bandwidth and resources. Yet I still hear people saying things like, "Chrome will be great when it has content policy", or, "When Adblock Plus works on Chrome I'll ditch Firefox". Oh please. As I said elsewhere, Google putting proper ad blocking into Chrome would be something like McDonald's joining PETA and campaigning to stop the killing of cows.

    In the above mentioned thread LucVN said , "Many people do not like that everything seems to go through Google.com now, i.e. the "big brother syndrome". I agree, and Chrome OS will make that not just worse, but permanent for machines running it. They'll effectively take away ad blocking by controlling the OS, not having proxy functions, and not putting content policy into their browser. Why does that not seem clear to people?

    As to apps being available in the cloud, sure they are, and I agree that cloud processing is the future of things. But only for those who play around on the web, and who don't have commercial interests or serious work which requires a good level of security. That description includes most companies, and I can tell you that I.T. companies I work for will never put their valuable data online where some cloud system has it floating around somewhere. I won't mention the industries, as you can probably think of ten different kinds within moments.

    The fact that many companies and individuals will continue to use current technology forms won't affect Google's plans, because enough people will get excited and buy machines which run Chrome OS. If you don't care about in-your-face advertising, or even like to click any damned thing people throw at you, then no problem. But if you don't like advertising - and the fact that the company controlling much of of it will stop you from removing it - then don't touch Chrome OS with a long stick.
    I dare to claim that you don't know what you are talking about :=)
    If you had cared to check chrome's source code you would notice that they are indeed implementing content policies. And ads have been what Google has lived of from day 1, I don't know where you have had other impression from.

    That Google should make Chrome OS just in order to remove the possibility to remove ads is so fare out, that I'm almost speakless, that's paranoid.. They are making Chrome (OS and browser) because they feel that the future belongs to the internet, as they have to as all of their own applications are online. That's why, their focus are on the web, where MS sells alot of software that has to be installed on the client, Google's programs are only online, therefore in order to compete with MS its natural to send a signal to the world "don't use ms-office as you have to install it locally, that's what we did in the past".

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    Good dare. I didn't say Google wrote Chrome OS only to stop people from removing adverts, but I did say that I think it's likely to be part of their agenda. That's not paranoia, it's just an opinion based upon what I'm seeing happening, and more importantly, not happening. Also, calling someone paranoid is a too often used tactic to imply that they have mental issues, when in fact they just don't agree with you. (The next one after that is usually accusing them of seeing everything as conspiracies). Just disagreeing is usually good enough.

    Google may have made money from ads since their inception, but it's gone up a notch or twenty since the early days. I've said a few times that I personally don't think they'll implement proper content policy, and it remains to be seen if they do. I have a feeling that if they do, it will fall far short of what Firefox does with Gecko and Adblock Plus, or Proxomitron and Chrome/IE, etc. Google have kept fairly quiet about it, and lots of people are wondering and asking questions.

    You could do everyone a favour and post a link to the content policy modules you've seen in the source code. I'd certainly like to see that, and I'm sure plenty of other people would too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc VN View Post
    I do not know if this one has been posted before, but to me, it is the best Chrome OS demo video available to date: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMrzw7JFzA In one word: WOW Keep in mind that Google is still one year from "Launch" That they have asked help from all open source programmers I love the concept
    Thanks you for the post.

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