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    decided to make a test with the brand new Futuremarks' peacekeeper testing tool. The tests can be conducted here: http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action
    The platform I'm running is made of a Quad Core Q6600, 4 GB of DDR2 RAM and a GeForce 8800 with 512 RAM, running Windows 7 RTM Ultimate x64.

    And the winner is.... drums... drums.... Google Chrome

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    Chrome v4.0.213.1 with --enable-local-storage flag and Adblock+ extension = 3261 points
    FireFox 3.5.3 with lots and lots of extensions = 2011 points
    Chrome plus 1.2.5 --enable-local-storage flag and Adblock+ extension = 2003 points
    Internet Explorer 8 fresh installed = 820 points

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    I think its great that you've done these tests and I guess its some consolation to the 'purists' out there that Chrome has come out on top ...

    However I think there comes a point where it doesn't matter what a product has to offer (doesn't need to be a browser) it always comes down to the individual and their personal preferences ...

    Chrome has had a healthy growth (0.5% month on month) until now (down to 0.1%)...

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

    The reality is that FF and IE still remain numbers 1 and 2 ...

    When it comes to being 'top of the pile' I think Google can take some pride and consolation in being the best of the 'others' by some considerable margin ...

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    "Problem" with Chrome is that it's not that ready yet.

    If Chrome had a more robust support for extensions, causing people to contribute with more advanced features, I'm sure that number would change a lot more.

    Also, IE Tab is something that certainly would bring more users to Chrome (due the bank pages and other sites that are made just for IE - bleh).

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    @Firehalk

    In total agreement with your comments on extension support ...

    I'm not sure where Google get there priorities from for enhancing Chrome ...

    Certainly they totally 'cocked up' with what people wanted for the NewTab page and in this 'day and age' I would have thought that an IE Mode implementation would have been a high priority, where the vast majority of 'banking' applications are on line ...

    You might want to take a look at this (if you haven't already done so) on how an IE Mode can be implemented (not allowed to mention the name, just in case I incur the wrath of a certain individual on this forum) ...

    ChromePlus 1.2.5.0 - Is This The Future of Chrome ?

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    You guys are right. I've been using Firefox for years, before that Opera. It isn't all about speed, as StevePaul said, it's about what browser offers. Because I've tested all the browsers here are some final impressions:
    Google Chrome
    + very fast startup
    + fast page load
    + individual processes for each tab or extension
    + automatically detects search engines and allows keywords for them.
    - slow back to previous page in history
    - no option to customize tab bar or bookmarks bar
    - can't block ads, doesn't have content policy, so it only hides them with the help of great Adblock+ extension.
    - weak extension support
    - lack of mouse gestures that work on all pages
    - No clear history on exit

    Firefox
    + fully customizable interface, adding new buttons, search engines etc
    + Content policy offers blocking of ads without even loading them with the help of AdBlock Plus extension
    + Good extension support
    + fast back to previous page in history (maybe not loading the ads make it faster)
    + Clear history on exit
    + Extension that deletes flash cookies. Flash cookies aren't cleaned by any browser when Clearing private data.
    - Sloooooow start up with only a few extensions

    Chrome Plus
    + very fast startup
    + fast page load
    + individual processes for each tab or extension
    + automatically detects search engines and allows keywords for them.
    + Mouse gestures
    + IE Tab
    + Super Drag and Drop
    + customizable start up options
    + Clear private data on exit
    - slow back to previous page in history
    - no option to customize tab bar or bookmarks bar
    - can't block ads, doesn't have content policy, so it only hides them with the help of great Adblock+ extension.
    - weak extension support

    This are just a few thoughts I had this morning while drinking coffee. Maybe you could continue the list of pros and cons.

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    "- slow back to previous page in history"
    You do know, that you can press, and hold down, back button, to get quick access to previeus pages ?

    "- No clear history on exit"
    Add the "-incognito" flag to your shortcut so you run incognito from the start.

    But surely most of our complains will be fixed when the Extension system is ready. But there are years of work yet to reach firefox level. I do however prefer a good, tested and secure solution, than the mess firefox has ended up as duo to its rush implementing nice new features, that just never have been properly tested.

    Chrome's primary target was to be fast, and firefox has proven how slow things can turn, if not done right from the beginning :=)

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    You do know, that you can press, and hold down, back button, to get quick access to previeus pages ?
    I mean a simple click on back button to go back... it isn't fast, it keeps loading stuff untill displays the page. In FF it way faster, not to mention Opera where is almost instant.

    Add the "-incognito" flag to your shortcut so you run incognito from the start.
    That's not a way of solving things... maybe there are some things I would like to keep. In CP I have option for what things to keep and what things to clear. So is in FF.

    Chrome's primary target was to be fast
    I agree, that's what I want, a fast browser. But, fast doesn't mean precisely page load time. Having other features like gestures or auto history cleaner saves me time, because I don't loose time performing them.

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    @alinescoo

    Totally concur with your thoughts ...

    I think what people need to realise is that Chrome is only just over a year old and that it took FF 5 years to get where it is today with the support it has for 'add-ons' ...

    Chrome needs to be careful it is not falling into the same trap as FF and pandering to the needs of everyone and attempting to 'emulate' FF ...

    Yes, extension support still needs to be improved, but thay also need to ensure that Chrome doesn't become 'bloated' as a consequence ...

    There is some good news on the horizon as far as ad blocking goes ...

    AdSweep is going back into development in the not too distant future ;-)

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    Adsweep could be back in dev, but the main issue ramains: Chrome can't filter those ads before loading, and if it's Adsweep or Adblock+, all that these great extensions do is hide ads.

    New cons for Chromium based browers:
    - doesn't manage passwords as it should be. The funny part is that even ere, on chromeplugins.org, chrome never offered to remember my password So, yeah, some sites have password and username filled in some never.

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    At least you get your ads 'blocked (hidden)', better than nothing at all ...

    As for passwords, I don't seem to have a problem (perhaps I'm just lucky) ...

    I remember there was a product called LastPass (or something like that), never got round to trying it out though ;-)

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