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    feel free to copy, everything I post here: Useful Extensions to the forum, and give me a PM if/when the whole forum thing goes down

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    I've had a read through the thread and given some thought to the ideas here, and have decided not to create another forum. That doesn't mean I won't create a slimline version though, if the ideas can be simplified. My main thoughts on it are these;

    At present there are thousands of Chrome users, with widely varying experience, who all want extensions for different reasons. Existing sites including Google's own extension repository are finding it difficult to strictly categorise extensions by name and functionality, and forums struggle to keep order in the sections they set up. I can appreciate the difficulty Chrome Admin has here in trying to please people with varying requirements (especially as he/she isn't being paid a wage for the time involved).

    The main question is time. How much time does it take to set something up and maintain it, and what balance is there in terms of reward, even if it's only personal satisfaction? Most things I've been involved with on the Internet have quickly become time-sinks, with far more hassle than reward. Sites I created for instruction and sharing have always been easy, as people read, sometimes contribute, but ask for little. Sites such as forums, and in particular one I created for a piece of software I wrote, become more unweildy as time goes on. Also, some people become very demanding, though they give nothing in return. You only have to read comments in the Google extension repository to see that.

    The idea for a 'posting template' sounds good, but in practice is unworkable. Many people refuse to keep to any organised format, and in fact seem to feel gleefully rebellious at making a mess of something someone else spent days or weeks working to achieve. Sad, and very dumb, but common on the Internet. Trying to enforce some form of order in a forum doesn't work because some idiots invariably say that their freedom to do as they please has been taken away, and the forum often dies in argument. If it survives more than a few months, it requires a massive amount of time input to constantly ensure the basic rules are observed. Again, I've experienced others enthusiastically saying that they'll help, only to find them quietly disappearing later on because it's taking too much of their time and they'd rather be doing other things.

    Essentially, what it comes down to for me is a) create a whole new forum and watch it gradually eat up my time, or b) create a fixed page site to offer people modifications I make for my own use which they might find useful. Trying to pull together all the information on extensions which anyone might find useful will become a huge task, and it's obvious that nobody has managed to do it well yet.

    Hmm... bit of a book - apologies.

    I think the basic question is: who'll put time into it, how much, and for how long?

    I'm going to keep my fixed page site at http://gochrome.letsdoo.org going, as it's very quick to post things I've created or modified, and the site is speedy for visitors.

    Why not set up a free forum, where you're given server space and the software is auto-installed for you? There are a few sites which offer that now, such as http://myfreeforum.org and http://www.forumotion.com. The latter even lets you choose (and change) the forum software you're using. It's a fast and easy way to set it up exactly as you please (forum control panels are easy to use), and it costs nothing but your time.
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    @Michael

    As always, a pleasure to read what you have to say and I thank you for your contribution ....

    What was pleasing was to understand the rationale behind your comments as someone who has experienced (first hand) the running of a similar site ...

    As much as I would like to pursue my original objectives, unfortunately with my own upcoming 'project' about to commence I personally won't have the time (start Monday week) ...

    In the interim I'll certainly have a look at the two sites you have recommended and store them in my 'knowledge base' for future reference ...

    In the meantime 'good luck' with your own new adventure, from what I've seen so far it has great potential ...

    I've already 'bookmarked' it as one of my 'startup' tabs !!

    PS:

    If only Chrome had had the courtesy to respond in the the same way as you have he may have managed to keep my enthusiasm for his site alive ...

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    well ive been going through chromes extension repository every day, and i have to say, only 1-2 noteworthy extensions are created each day. meaning once created maintainance is about 15 minutes to go through this pile, find the 2~ good extensions and add them to the list, along with briefly sumarizing.
    although if you include updating, your probably looking at about an additional 10 minutes (to run through about 10 extensions already on your list, checking if they have updated, and if so updating your post. (extensions dont update every day, i figure the average extension updates about once a month)

    which means your looking at anywhere from 15-30 minutes every day, to keep the post up to date (and more to catch it up to date)
    ofcourse as the forum grows, more and more people would be happy to do 1-2 extensions for you, so long as its not a commitment they have to continue. I could see work cutting down to 5-15 minutes a day, once you get a large crowed, if everyone is willing to help out every once in a while.

    You would need to allow for anonymous posting, or atleast anon messages to you, to make it easier for the surfers to get to you. (for every member, theres about 50 people without an account, at any one time)

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    @ BT: It will turn out to be a lot more time than that - it always does!

    @Steve: My 'new venture' is what's there now. I'm not going to spend much more time on Speed Dial, as I've just got it doing what I want and re-uploaded it. I may rip the rather awful Bookmark bar and page out of it, as I use another extension for quick access to those. (Chrome's rather nice Bookmark stuff is custom coded, and I don't know how to reproduce it on a dial page). The only extra stuff that'll be added is if I decide to modify something else, and that'll be infrequently.

    My new projects are very much out and about in local life, rather than online. I'm so looking forward to the warmer weather, evenings on the waterfront with the girls, etc. Starting this coming week, in fact (warm woman beats warm laptop any time..!)
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    @Michael

    I'm surprised you use an Extension for your bookmarks (My Bookmarks) when Chrome already has a Bookmark like extension (--bookmark-menu) ...

    One thing you could do with Speed Dial before you 'lay it to rest' is to use enable it to use a local image as the background ...

    Have to be honest, once we get to this time of year my thoughts turn to 'bowls' (Crown Green) and the forthcoming season ...

    As for the 'warm woman' I'm in total agreement there ;-)

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    The problem is that while the Speed Dial extension has an optional bookmarks bar which looks like Chrome's, it isn't. When you click the star at the right-hand end it displays a page containing the bookmarks, but it doesn't scroll, and you can't modify anything on it. Not much use, really. Trying to recreate the type of bookmark drop-down Chrome originally uses isn't worth the time, so I just use another extension. Again, why waste time on it? Google will only redo the entire thing soon anyway, and I just want better speed dials for now. (I briefly tried a new Chrome release with more dials, but they don't drag-and-drop).

    I was thinking about a local image background, and also making themes show through, but I don't use either. (Someone who's theme keen might take up that torch?) I'm limiting myself to just what I want to spend time on, and nothing more. Well, off to save the world on a mate's XBox 360...
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    im all for a local folder you can put the the ntp image ^^, it would be way easier than completing a theme, another cool idea, would be every ntp you open has a different image, because chrome could cycle through all the images in this folder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevePaul View Post
    I'm surprised you use an Extension for your bookmarks (My Bookmarks) when Chrome already has a Bookmark like extension (--bookmark-menu) ...
    Sheesh, thanks Steve. I'd completely forgotten about that, having not used a startup switch in ages. (I wish they'd just add those to Options...)
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    @Michael

    Looks like a late night, obviously took you longer than you thought to save the World from invading aliens and World domination (haha) ...

    Anyway a couple of random thoughts (in no particular order) while I was being boring and watching 'MOTD' last night ...

    Your Website

    Include a link in your address here (a bit of publicity never hurts)

    Ablock+

    Because I know you would have done your research, just interested in why you chose AdBlock+ over AdBlock ...

    Proxomitron

    I know this isn't an extension, but simply because of the amount of work you have done on it, I think this is worthy of a place on your website ...

    As you have with your extensions, perhaps a page with a download and an explanation of what it does, along with a description of the filters you have added ...

    Speed Dial

    What happened to the Alt + A to add pages

    Grabbit

    Couldn't you find a better icon ?

    Installed Extensions

    Because you might know the answer to this and because it really annoys me ...

    In the 'good old days' when you installed an extension the CRX file would be in your downloads folder and you could save it to use at a later date ...

    This was extremely useful for someone like me who has a tendency to uninstall and reinstall Chrome quite frequently I could just go to my folder of Extension CRX's and install without having to go to the Gallery and fetch every one individually ...

    Nowadays, if you install from the Gallery it obviously downloads the file somewhere (a temp file I'm guessing) but where is it and does it get deleted as soon as the extension installs ?

    Last but not least ...

    Are you going to include a subscription feed for your site so that people know you have updated an extension ...

    The reason I ask is because yesterday you updated Speed Dial about 3 times and every time I was going to ask a question I found it had been updated ...

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